Yamaha P85 Digital Stage Piano (Black)

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The Yamaha P85 Digital Piano features an authentic, natural sound with remarkable expressiveness in a compact, affordable piano.This new Contemporary Piano gives you all the dynamic, high-quality sound and natural piano response you expect from Yamaha, along with a high-quality built-in speaker system - packed into a slim, exceptionally affordable digital piano you can play virtually anywhere. No compromises, full quality.Exceptionally High-quality SoundThe gorgeous piano sounds of the P-85 feature meticulous digital sampling of a full concert grand piano - that change in tone and volume depending on how you play - thanks to Yamaha's sophisticated AWM Stereo Sampling.Realistic, Acoustic-like Touch ResponseEnjoy authentic, naturally expressive key touch - modeled after an actual acoustic piano, from the low notes to the high - with the Graded Hammer Standard (GHS) keyboard.Ultra-compact, Stylish DesignThe attractive, slim, lightweight design of the instrument - less than 25 pounds - suits virtually any room decor, while the built-in speaker system fills your room with luscious sound.Extensive Voice Selection and Dual Voice FunctionThe versatile P85 also gives you a variety of other high-quality instrument Voices, including electric pianos, organs, strings and harpsichord - plus a Dual Voice feature for playing two Voices at once.Record Your PerformanceYou can capture your own playing with the song recording feature, then play it back for studying or accompaniment. There's even a built-in metronome for practicing and recording in perfect time.Expressive Half-pedal ControlFeatures a half-pedal effect that gives you greater acoustic-like expressive control over the sound (with optional FC3 Foot Controller or LP-5 Pedal Unit).
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- Extensive Voice Selection and Dual Voice Function - The versatile P-85 also gives you a variety of other high-quality instrument Voices.
- Record Your Performance - You can capture your own playing with the song recording feature, then play it back for studying or accompaniment.
- Expressive Half-pedal Control - Features a half-pedal effect that gives you greater acoustic-like expressive control over the sound
- Matching Stand (optional) - The optional L-85 & L-85S stands provide stability and optimum sound projection for the instrument.
- Three-pedal Pedal Unit (optional) - The optional LP-5 Pedal Unit gives you three pedals for the same kind of comprehensive sustain
- There's even a built-in metronome for practicing and recording in perfect time.
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Customer Buzz
 "Valuable Digital Piano" 2010-05-14
By Daidaoning (NY)
The piano is as good as I expected, except some scratches on the white keys.

Anyway, this is an open box one, and price is nice, we can not expect too much.

Five stars.

Customer Buzz
 "Touch is not Grand, but it serves it's purpose" 2010-03-26
By D. Robbins (Boston, Ma)
I own the P85 because I have limited space and wanted a light, portable, weighted-key, instrument with built-in speakers for practicing.



CONS:



1. Touch: I enjoy the action well-enough to practice on it every day, and anything is playable on it, including fast challenging pieces. But the P85 does not feel or respond like a grand piano, in spite of what other reviewers have said; in some aspects, it's not even as good as an upright. But better boards will cost you a lot more- I personally would vouch for the Yamaha S90 keyboard action, but for $2000; and the P85 is the best in its price range- beats a similar Casio model for sure. As I got more familiar with the P85 the past few months, these are the things I overlooked while testing it out in the store: Extremely fast repeated notes don't work (due to the escapement mechanism being too high). This sounds technical, but it means you have limited dynamic/expressive range. Subtleties produced by a sensitive musician will go largely unnoticed by the P85. Finally, the touch does not reflect the difference between high and low notes; low notes should feel heavier and offer more resistance to press, generally; but they are completely equal on this board.

2. Speakers: The speakers offer too much bass, and you cannot equalize the levels manually, so the bass is always boomier than the treble.

3. Dynamic range: The range is ok, but limited. The louds are not loud enough (seems to be compensated for by adding a lot of bass), and the softs are not soft enough. But, this is always the case with synths.

4. Overall Construction: There are no standard output jacks, so you have to use the headphone jacks (it has 2) if you want to plug in your own amp. A music stand is included, but it's pretty useless as these always are on synths.



Pros:

1.Built-in speakers are wonderfully silent when power is on and you're not playing, and they have a nice upper range sound.

2.Light-weight and sturdy

3.Passable sound for various venues like musical theater shows or church where all you have to do is play a few general dynamics.

4.Simple user interface is attractive and uncluttered

5.Doesn't use much electricity, (it includes a small 2-prong A/C adapter), plus you won't need to hook up an amp either.

6.A good amount of adjustable features (although you'll have to read the manual to figure out how to use them, because the user interface is so basic). For example, you can adjust the touch to match your style of playing, you can couple sounds like piano+strings, you can adjust the metronome to any meter or tempo.



Do not get this instrument... If you are looking for an authentic grand piano feel; if you want to wallow in the beauty of your sound.



Customer Buzz
 "Excellent if you want the feel of a piano but can't afford/transport one." 2010-03-04
By JC (CA USA)
The only thing that could be better is the pedal which sometimes moves around while playing.

Customer Buzz
 "Amazing piano" 2010-03-02
By Stephen Chan (Seattle, WA)
I purchased the P85 to learn the piano after stopping for 15 years. I picked the P85 because it was affordable, it would fit in an apartment with limited space, and it was the best sounding digital piano for the price. I've had the chance to try this piano against an upright acoustic and a grand piano, and while there are differences, it isn't difficult to transfer skills between them.



[+] good [-] bad [*] different than acoustic piano



THE SOUND

[+] Piano voices sound realistic. Each note is beautifully distinctive, and never goes out of tune

[+] Better with headphones. The richness of the notes is even better when listening through a good set of headphones

[-] Other voices are worthless. The recordings for the other instrument choices sound toy-like compared to the high quality of the piano recordings. It feels like you are playing with MIDIs when you use the other voices.

[-] Speakers lack power. The speakers are not good enough to reproduce the sounds of the original recordings.

[*] Max volume is softer than an acoustic piano. It is easy to get into the habit of hammering the P85 keys because the digital records will still sound good, and it never gets too loud. But when switching to an acoustic, the same banging will sound ugly.

[*] The sustain is shorter when holding the pedal. Since the digital notes don't interact with each other, you can continuously hold the pedal, and each new note you play can still be heard clearly. For acoustic pianos, the sustain is longer and the new notes jumble together with the previous notes creating a muddled wall of noise.



THE FEEL

[+] The keys have a nice weight to them which transfers almost exactly to the skills needed for an acoustic piano

[+] The size of the keys also transfers nicely to an acoustic piano

[-] The pedal is too small to use. Fortunately, better petals are available, and not expensive.

[*] The keys of the P85 were heavier than the upright acoustic I used, and similar to the grand piano. You will get stronger fingers playing the p85. I found I could play the upright better after spending some time with the P85, but that it took longer to transition back to the p85 after a few weeks with the acoustic.



THE FEATURES

[+] Ready to go. You can turn on the piano and start playing within a few seconds. There is no need to fiddle with setting as everything is optimally set as defaults.

[-] The metronome is one of the most annoying features of this piano. There is a left and right button which changes the speed of the metronome, but each time you press it, it seems to double the speed. So it is always too fast or too slow. And it has an extra bell that signifies the start of a bar in 4/4 time. In order to change the time signature or get a more precise speed, you need to hold down the metronome button and press a specific note on the keyboard. Which requires having the manual on you at all times. An extra button to control the time signature, and easier control over the metronome speed would have been ideal.



THE SETUP

[+] Lightweight. It is easy to pick up and move, and the small profile makes it less awkward to carry.

[+] Stable. It sits firmly on a z-stand, and I've never had a problem with it shifting while playing.



OVERALL

The P85 makes piano playing addictive because it sounds so good, but can lead to bad habits with how loud to play, and how long to hold the pedal. However the fundamentals of how to play transfer very well from the P85 to an acoustic piano. You can also play at any time of day or night without bothering others because of the headphones option. The P85 is a joy to play, and I highly recommend it.

Customer Buzz
 "Great value" 2010-02-11
By Svein Morten Drejer
I'm really pleased with this piano. I'm an intermediate player, and I find that this instrument encompasses my needs. It has its limitations, though, especially when it comes to sound quality. The built in speakers are OK, but nothing more. The piano sound is good, but still a deal away from the real deal, of course. The feel of the keys is good, maybe a touch on the heavy side for my taste. In sum this is a great beginner/intermediate piano for the player on a budget. Well worth the price tag.


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